#i love data analysis

[twig-tea]

Thank you so much for putting this all together @ranchthoughts I know it was a ton of work!

I love this data analysis and think it's so interesting (and I also really enjoyed chatting with you about where the lines should be drawn).

I wanted to add on that in addition to this being an interesting breakdown across time and production companies, I think it's also really interesting in terms of what the hard data doesn't tell us. I know when Ranch and I were going back and forth on some of these, one of the things that stood out to me was that this criteria ruled out Wedding Plan, which had at its core marriage equality and acceptance as the entire plot driver of the show (for Yiwah and Marine). It also highlighted Grey Rainbow, which as Ranch rightly noted in their OP was not exactly the ideal plot to hold up as a bastion of progress (though I did love the wedding/family conversations in that show).

All of this is to say that looking at wedding and proposal rep is an important facet of marriage equality representation in Thai QL and it is also only one facet. I've been really blown away by how often BL and GL content bring up marriage equality within shows, and it's something I wish I tracked over time because it started as something that happened occasionally and became an almost ubiquitous occurrence. It's also really difficult to put a quantifiable number on how impactful the reference is; there are big differences between say a casual mention of marriage inequality in a line of dialogue and the speech about marriage inequality by the activist who gets erased in 7 Days Before Valentine. Of the Thai QL I've seen, a few scenes have stood out to me that I want to give shout-outs to:

The protest scene in Not Me directed by Nuchy is one of the most iconic images in support of marriage equality in any QL to date

I always have to give credit to Naughty Babe for setting an established date for when marriage equality would pass (and getting the year right!)

The most depressing prediction in contrast goes to Something in My Room which had a timeskip to the main character's death during which they establish that marriage equality still has not occurred

There are also powerful representations of older, established couples that talk about how they cannot get legally married in Thailand that are a different kind of critical representation, the stand-out being Ai's dads in Ai Long Nhai who get a double-shoutout for being a real-life gay couple who have become two of the faces of the marriage equality movement and have announced a reality tv show for their wedding [links to posts by @pharawee and @singto-prachaya)

I already shouted them out once but I think Yiwa and Marine in Wedding Plan are notable for their wedding/desire to get married driving the entire plot of the show

I want to be extremely clear that this isn't to dismiss or diminish the work in the OP in any way; There's no good way to capture all of this in any one quantitative chart, so I think OP has done a fantastic job highlighting this one facet and breaking it down in really interesting and useful ways. My goal here is just to highlight that readers should be careful about what it does and doesn't tell us, and to encourage folks to think about the other ways that marriage equality has been reinforced and driven forward in QL media in addition to depicting proposals and weddings as one important and impactful facet of the fight that is absolutely worth celebrating and continuing to watch.

Happy marriage equality Thailand! 🌈

A few months ago, @colourme-feral came to me with the idea of cataloguing as many same-sex Thai QL proposals and weddings as we could. And today, to celebrate the bill passing the Senate (and the first post-bill-passing proposal and wedding), I'd like to share with you all our findings! Even though same-sex marriage has not been legal in Thailand until this year (hopefully things will be official in the fall), there have been quite a few same-sex proposals and weddings in Thai QLs throughout the years.

Big thank you to everyone who assisted on this project in some capacity (@airenyah, @bengiyo, @blmpff, @chickenstrangers, @dribs-and-drabbles, @nieves-de-sugui, @twig-tea, @waitmyturtles, @williamrikers) plus all the gif and fanvid makers whose work was instrumental in helping us double check everything (particular shout out to these gifsets by @apathetic-tortoise (1, 2) and this one by @gunsatthaphan).

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We found 28 Thai QL shows which featured at least one same-sex proposal (the blue list below) and 15 Thai QL shows which featured at least one same-sex wedding (the green list below).

I was pretty strict with what counted as a proposal or a wedding for the purposes of this project. For example, characters who we know are married but whose wedding we don’t see aren’t counted (like Laws of Attraction’s Maya and Rose, or the unnamed Force and Book characters shown in a “Just Married” car in Vice Versa). There are many shows where there is a ring or someone gets down on one knee but the question is not exactly “popped” (Khun Chai, Star In My Mind Our Skyy 2, etc.), and there are even more shows characters talk at length about commitment and being together forever but there were no mentions of marriage or other details (like rings, etc.) that would specifically suggest it was a proposal (A Boss and a Babe, Ai Long Nhai, Be My Favourite, Cupid's Last Wish, Dark Blue Kiss, Something In My Room, Star in My Mind, Still 2gether, Until We Meet Again, 3 Will Be Free, etc.). Some of these moments might have been intended as a declaration of intent to marry by the characters and the show runners, but they weren’t conclusive enough to be included on this list. Furthermore, I think it’s interesting to see how many shows were, for lack of a better word, explicit in their discussion or portrayal of same-sex marriage (having the characters use the word marriage, showing weddings, etc.), despite being from a time before such a thing was legally possible. 

Note: I've listed the shows with the year they started airing for ease, even though some of them did finish airing in another year.

(see alt text for the full lists)

The Quick Facts

The first proposal and the first wedding in our data set both happened in Grey Rainbow episode 4, which aired on May 7, 2016. (though this is not exactly an auspicious wedding to start with, as those who know know)

12 shows featured at least one proposal and one wedding (Cherry Magic, GAP the Series, Grey Rainbow, Laws of Attraction, Love Syndrome 3, My Secret Love, Naughty Babe, Never Let Me Go, Tharntype Special: The Wedding Day, Two Worlds, Wedding Plan, and the Wedding Plan Special). 

4 shows feature two same-sex proposals (Cherry Magic, Love Syndrome 3, My Secret Love, and Two Worlds). All these shows also feature a same-sex wedding.

None of the shows in our sample had two same-sex weddings.

The Data Over Time

As you can see, generally same-sex proposals and weddings have become more common in Thai QLs over time, though of course there are more Thai Qls being produced now than in the earlier days.

Note: I'm only looking at shows which aired before the marriage equality bill passed the Senate, so the 2024 data does not include Wandee Goodday or OMG! Vampire. It will be interesting to see if and how the number of same-sex proposals and weddings in Thai QLs increases through 2024 and beyond now that it will become a legal reality.

It is also interesting to consider the production companies behind the shows in our sample. This sample includes 7 GMM shows and 5 Mandee/Domundi shows, plus 1-3 series each from other production companies like Idol Factory, MeMindY, Studio Wabi Sabi, Copy A Bangkok, Jinloe Media Work, TV Thunder, and M Flow Entertainment. In other words, GMM shows make up roughly 23% of the sample, Mandee/Domundi shows are another 16%, and other production companies comprise about 61% of the sample.

Main Couples vs Side Couples

There are 28 shows with proposals in the sample but 32 proposals, because four shows have two proposals each. 26 of these 32 proposals (81%) are between the main characters and 6 of them (19%) are between side characters.

Of the 15 weddings in the sample, 12 (80%) are between main couples and 3 (20%) are between side couples.

For interest's sake, I also broke this down for GMM and Mandee/Domundi. GMM has 7 proposals in 6 shows, with 5 main couples and 2 side couples popping the question; and 3 weddings (across 3 shows), in which 2 side couples and 1 main couple got married. Mandee/Domundi has 5 proposals in 4 shows, all between main couples, and 3 weddings (across 3 shows), also all featuring main couples.

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And now here we are, after the bill has passed the Senate. Congratulations to the Thai queer community, and the happy couples Oyei and Cher from Wandee Goodday and Sen and Run from OMG! Vampire who are the first Thai QL couples to propose and to have a wedding (respectively) after Thailand's marriage equality bill passed the Senate! (The bill passed the Senate on June 18, 2024, and episode 8 of Wandee Goodday aired 4 days later on June 22, followed by episode 6 of OMG! Vampire on June 23.)

I can’t wait to see more same-sex engagements and weddings in Thai shows as we move forward.

[governorofclowntown]

step 1: develop hyperfixation on coding with R

step 2: ??!!??!? (for three weeks straight)

step 3: fully interactive LCARS inspired website that does CGM analysis for the minuscule audience of diabetic star trek nerds

[bookwyrminspiration]

sisyphus moanin about that boulder when he doesn't even have to write a research essay with three strangers

[thesunsethour]

House MD and the use of the word ‘miserable’ (S2)

[S1 stats here]

‘Miserable’ total mentions: 28

‘Miserable’ mentions by House: 9

‘Miserable’ mentions by Wilson: 8

‘Miserable’ mentions by Foreman: 4

‘Miserable’ mentions by patients/families: 3

‘Miserable’ mentions by Cuddy: 2

‘Miserable’ mentions by Chase: 1

‘Miserable’ mentions by Cameron: 1

Times someone accuses House of being miserable: 13 - (6 from Wilson / 3 from patients / 2 from House’s subconscious / 1 from Cuddy / 1 from Foreman)

Full quotes:

2.01

Chase to House: “I assume you have a reason beyond wanting to make me completely miserable?”

2.05

Wilson to Cuddy about House's father : “You know what I figure is worse than watching your son become crippled? Watching him be miserable.”

2.06

House to Wilson about Stacy: “She’s miserable with Mark because he’s not me. So, she’s gotta make me not me, so she makes my professional life miserable…”

2.07

House to Stacy: “Sorry you were miserable.”

Cameron to patient: “This is about your lonely, miserable life.”

Patient to Cameron: “I’m not miserable. And as long as there’s a gay bar around, I’m never lonely.”

2.09

Foreman to Cuddy: “You chose me to make House miserable, didn’t you?”

Cuddy to Foreman: “Apparently, he’s making you miserable. That’s impressive.”

Foreman to Cuddy: “I only did that stuff to prove that he couldn’t make me miserable.”

2.11

Foreman to House: “Cuddy just put me here to make you miserable. Another two days, you can go back to making yourself miserable.”

Wilson to House about Stacy: “This was no great sacrifice! You sent her away because you’ve got to be miserable.”

Wilson to House: “Being miserable doesn’t make you better than anyone else, House. It just makes you miserable.”

2.12

Cuddy to House: “To annoy me, or maybe because you’re miserable, or because you want to self-destruct. Pick one.”

2.13

Wilson to House: “It’s not cancer. You seem to be back to your old, miserable self.”

2.15

House to ducklings: “A hundred bucks says they’re as miserable as the next couple.”

2.16

Wilson to House: “Yeah, that’s why you’re making me miserable.”

Wilson to House: “You’re miserable, and you’re lonely, and you’re going to trap me here to keep me every bit as miserable and lonely too.”

House to Wilson: “I did not make you miserable.”

Patient’s father to House: “You sick, miserable –”

2.22

House to Foreman: “I need you kicking ass here to be all that lets you rise above being miserable.”

2.23

House’s old friend to House: “If you’re right, I’ll be miserable, and if I’m right, I’ll hate myself because I didn’t trust her!”

House to ducklings: “Here’s how to become a great artist. First, get miserable.”

2.24

House's hallucination to House: “And even if I’m wrong, you’re still miserable.”

House's hallucination to House: “You’re miserable for nothing. I don’t know why you’d want to live.”

[liuisi]

i hate you artificial intelligence i hate you chat gpt i hate you copilot i hate you meta ai i hate you "i'll look it up on chat gpt" i hate you photoshop generative fill i hate you "I'll just ask ai to summarize this" i hate you "in 5 years everything will use ai" I HATE YOU LOSS OF THE HUMAN TOUCH I HATE YOU COLD UNFEELING MACHINE

[bobcat-pie]

[aguineapigcouldntdothis]

college is super funny bc every time I tell a professor my general career plan theyre like "well it'll take a lot of work but it seems like something you would enjoy and it can be great work! if you need help just ask me" yet when I explain why I actually wanna go into this they say, without fail (and in much nicer terms), "wow dude you're a fucking nerd. theres a million cool reasons to pursue this career path and you chose the lamest one. are you just like this??"

[disordercinema]

Insane watching Necrit do a frame by frame decomposition of the first episode of Arcane season 2 for a future analysis, bc this man is going to do this for every episode and he'll just superficially talk about it and the lore references. The power he would have if he applied a little bit of film theory to this since he is already doing so much work at collecting the raw data, the essays he could write

It's like watching someone get all the ingredients for a cake, mix it together but NOT BAKE IT

[devotion-disorder]

Are you still answering asks for Noel and Kuuya? Asking because I really want to see more of your boys. Also waiting for whenever you release those other yandere characters you're making👉👈

yes i am! (technically) its just that ive been pretty busy recently so I just...don't really have the time or energy to answer asks / draw something. I also struggle a lot with finding motivation to draw in general haha (bitter smile)

but i think i might have a bit more free time in a couple days so! let's hope I'll be able to do something by then lol

as for other yan characters that are still unfortunately trapped in my Brain Soup now.....i guess they'll be freed from soup jail as soon as I actually have time to draw their ref sheet LOL and their designs/ basic lore still needs a bit ironing out heeeouhghhh

[thebiballerina]

A lot of Batfamily fans like fan content which dives into the trauma of some of them being siblings with people that have tried to kill them. While they aren't wrong, I would posit that they need more fan content which addresses the real issue here: the Batkids should absolutely make fun of those of them that failed at murdering one (or more) of the others.

I'm just saying, if my sibling failed at killing me or another relative, I would mock them about that until one of us died for real. I would give them birthday cards talking about how they truly put the 'attempted' in 'attempted fratricide'. I would ask them if they remembered their cringefail murder skills. I would bring that up at the slightest provocation. Anytime they got annoyed at me for something, I would be like, "What are you going to do, kill me? It's not like you're any good at it!"

[fieryophelia]

Still waiting for Spotify and YouTube to update their charts later today but Google has already come through with some beautiful data for a certain eclipse themed song we all know and love during the total solar eclipse we had in the USA on Monday, April 8, 2024...

https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=now%201-d&geo=US&q=%2Fg%2F1q5jzj36p,%2Fg%2F1q5j2__98,%2Fg%2F11bzvv1522,%2Fm%2F01qdc_p&hl=en

Look at the time of peak searches. And also note the path of searches on the map...

Map - http://www.nationaleclipse.com

So then I decided to compare with a few top eclipse anthem contenders to see who won the battle. Bonnie blew them all away.

Dark Side of the Moon came in #2 in comparison, followed by #3 Black Hole Sun and #4 Here Comes the Sun. None of them really dominated any city on the map over Bonnie.

Other potential eclipse anthems I checked that rated lower than the Beatles to the 4 listed above: Sound of Silence by Simon and Garfunkel, Steal My Sunshine by Len, Total Eclipse by Iron Maiden, Dark of the Sun by Tom Petty, Promises in the Dark by Pat Benetar, Dancing in the Dark by Bruce Springsteen, Blinded by the Light cover by Bruce Springsteen (would be #5, this version was also more popular than the Manfred Mann's Earth Band version), Ain't No Sunshine When She's Gone by Bill Withers and the individual song Eclipse by Pink Floyd specifically (the album ranked higher). I'm sure I'm missing some but these were at the top of multiple eclipse themed playlists I consulted.

I'm also not sure exactly how many searches this graph corresponds to yet, but I'm sure we'll get recap articles that might have numbers. From a different Google data product, it looks like over 200k searches were done for Total Eclipse of the Heart on Sunday, April 7th alone, the day before (still less than "how to make eclipse glasses" LOL).

Looking forward to Spotify's data. 🌞

Also fun to look at: comparing searches for this song over time with total US eclipses. Possible spikes due to eclipse interest would be 2012 (annular) and 2017 (total) but the 2023 (annular) barely registered. The other spikes may be due to Bonnie performing it on TV (2005) and the TV show Glee covering it (2010).

I'll look at this more later.

But just for fun too, if you've never seen it, check out the Literal lyrics version for the original music video (it was insane, even for the 80's) https://youtu.be/fsgWUq0fdKk?si=CRXE_Zd86GpZa1yG

[thatrandombystander]

My favourite YouTube series is the guy doing employment censuses on video game towns and then presenting on what the unemployment rate and type of work suggests about the economic implications of the town

[acr3ss-the-cosmos]

When the Foxians and Borisins first branched off from their common ancestor countless Amber Eras ago, the former's dietary needs began to shift as well. They were no longer obligate carnivores (a trait the Borisins retained from their predecessors), but were now omnivorous, as their digestive tracts had adapted to properly digest plant matter and grains to convert into energy.

This has been reflected in the cuisine of modern day Foxians, with their dishes consisting of a healthy balance of fruits, vegetables, grains, and animal proteins. Contrary to what those unfamiliar with their race may believe, meat isn't a requirement in a Foxian's diet, and they are still able to gain enough protein by consuming eggs, beans, nuts, seeds, and other meatless sources. To use a specific example, while Chenhua is not vegan, she tends to eat less meat than the average Foxian as she prefers meals more on the vegetarian side, with a strong liking towards fruits and berries.

[lemons-beignets]

So I'm getting a master's degree in data analysis, right? For one of my final projects this summer, I'm supposed to choose a dataset and create an executive summary + some interactive dashboards with it. The idea is to practice delivering business info to higher-ups at a corporation, but the prof encouraged us to be creative and pick something fun if we wanted... so I took that blessing and RAN WITH IT.

Y'all, I am literally using a dataset of all Pokemon from Gens 1-7 and writing this shit from the perspective of Team Rocket (the org, not specifically our trio because they are dumb and could not do data analysis ❤️)

I'm out here identifying "high value" Pokemon based on low catch rates, unique abilities, high damage, etc—I'm looking at where they live and helping chart out a plan of top priorities—I'm going SO HARD ON THIS

i love grad school. undergrad would never have let me use my special interest this way

[rotzaprachim]

love when I sit down to read academic papers form my subject and I love my subject!

[anna-scribbles]

will you make a poll for most slay and ugly senti designs. i really think guiltrip deserves to be honored somehow. perhaps an honorable mention if reflekta wins either category.

LOVE the way you’re thinking. honestly this process has made me desperate to know the ml fandom’s opinions on everything